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CVTs seem to generate a degree of controversy, but I have a great deal of respect for how the iQ CVT handles my everyday driving demands. Even moreso since the iQ is a city car and the CVT appropriately frees me up to deal with real world traffic conditions with much less stress.

Would I like a manual? In some situations, yes. Maybe for more performance driving. But as a city car? No, I think Scion was wise and consistent with the design targets of this car to keep the CVT. Some predicted early on that the CVT would be a big negative for the iQ and for some it probably was. Fine. They do not need to be driving a city car in a city environment where a degree of common sense is called for.

Over all, I have come to love, and even marvel at, the way this little CVT works. It's different, yes, but having spent some months with it I think it's really great.

What are yours thoughts on the iQ CVT? Any experiences with other CVTs (perhaps the ones that seem to generate all the controversies)? Any comparisons?
 

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It reminds me of the clutch on my gokart or mini bike.....slipping....slipping.....ahhh moving....moving....
 

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There are good ones and bad ones out there. The one that Honda has is a good one like the CVT in the IQ but the one in the "smart car" is terrible. Tried it some time ago and it was one of the reasons that I did not purchase a "smart car". The tranny has to sort of 'wind up' before the car moves. I can't think of a better way to explain it.
 

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I like it. The Smart is an electronic manual that is actually shifting gears and has a huge lag. I haven't had any issues yet and I feel that it's pretty smooth.
 

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I like it except for the times I want to get out in traffic. I push the pedal down and it kind of just goes uuuugggggh.
After it get moving it is fantastic. I kind of like how if you give it a lot of gas it sounds like it shifts. But if you hardly push the pedal down. You can't hear it shift up.
 

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My understanding of the shift sounds are that they are engineered in for the drivers piece of mind and are not realy part of how the CVT works.
 

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iqforyou's reply made me laugh with a short an decisive statement.
I do agree the CVT is sort of so-so for any car enthusiast...

I long when I see 500's & Mini's go by decisively in the proper ratio (picked by it's driver) while I am mostly lugging...
(sorry for having two "decisive" in the same sentence; I am mostly french)

500's are totally remote to what a car should look like and Mini's are too expensive to purchase and maintain... 2012 Yaris hatchback got bigger and generic-designed (a step back I find)... that left me with the iQ as the only choice... nice in all aspects except CVT.

Master-Yoda is a lucky fellow with Toyota's offering out in Europe.

I am 99% city-driving; I would have loved a manual but there is no question CVT does suit a lotta people. Nice would have been having had the choice of either...
 

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I would like to have a manual just for fun but now that I'm used to the CVT in the iQ I'm totally happy with it.

I've noticed that since I put the new DC Sports intake on it, the "shifting" sounds are more pronounced. Less sounding like a mini bike clutch and more like a quick shifting manual. I like it.
 

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I am happy with the CVT in my IQ and also in my wife's Outback. Just give it the gas and go.
I test drove a six speed Soul in city traffic and all that shifting was a pain in the...

I don't mind shifting on my motorcycle but don't want it in my car or truck.

My two new tractors have a hydrostatic transmission (kinda like a CVT) and I thought that I would not like the auto after driving stick tractors for so long but now I am sold.
 

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I supect if the Scion version of the iQ had a manual tranny option a whole other range of potential owners might become engaged...and one day that might become desirable for Toyota. But for now, I think a manual tranny would/could make the iQ something other than the pure city car it is, and I'm not sure that would be a good thing. Do city dwellers need to row the gears to quicker launch times or for carving their way through side streets? Fun yes, but not while perserving a degree of civility on our public roads. Here, having two hands firmly and purposefully planted on the steering wheel is the beneficial thing.

If the car came with a stick you'd have a lot more performance-minded folks scarfing these little babies up. In light of this I am kinda liking where they went with the Scion iQ, avoiding that altogether different scene. As a city car, the iQ really shines. As for this other thing...well there are other cars designed for that.
 

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Of the 20ish cars I have had, only 3 have not been maual transmisions. I still have the urge to clutch and changing gears while driving.
 

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The IQ CVT cuts spark to simulate an conventional automatic . If they just let do what it does best , it would perform the same or better than a stick as far as acceleration .
 

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I still have the urge to clutch and changing gears while driving.
Me, too....and I have a few places on my normal route where it would be a blast to do so! :) Unfortunately such activity involves a degree of hooligan driving that is unwise. It's better for everyone that I simply explore the benefits of my TRD suspension upgrades. That's plenty of fun for a city car on public roads.
 

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I really like the IQ's CVT trans,

It is much smooother than a actual gear shifting Auto trans. But then again I also have a Suzuki 650cc Motorcycle that also has a CVT trans, it basically acts the same way as the IQ, It has what most people call a slipping shift, when the CVT trans shifts into one of it's 40+ gear ratios under normal driving it is undetectable, that still amazes me,even after driving a cvt vehicle for over 5 years, My motorcycle does not have the Faux shifting, and it is much faster.

My Suzuki 650cc Motorcycle with CVT trans has a Regular mode & Power mode button and two manual shift buttons (up & Down 5 gear ratios).

The IQ cvt, I think could be fixed for the better, it is not bad the way it is, But, if someone could reprogram the CVT (ie: a chip)for optimal shifts, and get rid of the Faux shifting.
 

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If in fact they are cutting the spark to obtain that shift feel. I think they need to be reprogramming the transmission. It would be better if it just stayed and didn't do that. Performance and fuel wise.
 
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