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I decided to check
New Cars, Used Cars, Car Reviews and Pricing - Edmunds.com for comparable small economical hatchbacks with manual transmissions for about the same price as the iQ and found a few listed below.

2012 Toyota Yaris L 2dr Hatchback (1.5L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) TMV Price $14,760
Fuel economy: 30 city/38 hwy mpg

2012 Hyundai Accent GS 4dr Hatchback (1.6L 4-cyl. 6-speed Manual) TMV Price $15,400
Fuel economy: 30 city/40 hwy mpg

2012 Honda Fit Base 4dr Hatchback (1.5L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) TMV Price $15,826
Fuel economy: 27 city/33 hwy mpg

2012 Ford Fiesta SE 4dr Hatchback (1.6L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) TMV Price $16,171
Fuel economy: 29 city/37 hwy mpg

2012 Nissan Versa 1.8 S
4dr Hatchback (1.8L 4-cyl. 6-speed Manual) TMV Price $15,140
Fuel economy:
26 city/31 hwy mpg

2012 Fiat 500 Pop 2dr Hatchback (1.4L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) TMV Price $15,,878
Fuel economy: 30 city/38 hwy mpg

2012 Kia Rio 5dr Hatchback (1.6L 4-cyl. 6-speed Manual) Base Price $14,300 - $14,700
Fuel economy: 30 city/40 hwy mpg

2012 Mazda 2 5dr Hatchback (1.5L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) Base Price $15,040
Fuel economy: 29 city/35 hwy mpg

2012 Chevrolet Sonic 3dr Hatchback (1.8L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual) TMV Price $15,720
Fuel economy: 26 city/35 hwy mpg
 

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OK I updated it
 

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awesome list here.

The Fiat 500 looks like a really nice car but after hearing Chrysler has some involvement with that car, I didn't bother trying to know more about it LOL

Might be a case of Fix It Again...Tony! (FIAT)
 

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The Fiat is a joke. I had high hopes for it until I drove one. Chrysler service, built in Mexico in the old PT cruiser plant, and Fiat reliability. Odds of a success here are slim.

The Mazda2 gets alot of good reviews. Styling is not for me though. The Fiesta is not bad, though. Although the name is stupid.
 

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I am awaiting the announcement fro the 2012 Mazda2, it should be a 40 MPG car around $15Kwith a standard transmission.:).
 

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I have added the 2012 Kia Rio Hatchback and the 2012 Mazda 2 gas model, :)there is supposed to be a diesel that gets 70 mpg.
 

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I just added the 2012 Chevy Sonic Hatchback.
 

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It's shortcomings could be overlooked if JLO came with it like in the ads. LOL
 

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I presently run thefollowing:
2000 VW Golf TDI (diesel) 5 speed, 47 MPG
2000 Cadillac Elsorado ETC, Auto, 23 MPG
2004 Dodge 3500 4X4 Dually, Auto, 6" lift, 36" tires, 4" Dual stacks, Predator, 20 MPG

My Eldo is an auto and that is fine cause it is a luxury car.
My Dodge 3500 is an Auto because I tow my Jet boat with it, along with occasional livestock.
My current econo car gets better mileage than the iQ, but its heater is out so it isn't a Winter car, that's why I am looking for another econo hatchback that has a manual transmission. I put on about 90 miles a day commuting to work on mainly my VW Golf TDI.

Back in May I discovered the iQ and could only find specs from the UK Toyota site that,I have posted here previously, and discovered that it would be coming to the U.S. and the UK sit listed 3 models iQ1 iQ2 and iQ3. The iQ3 came with a 6 speed manual in addition to the CVT.

So based on that information I placed a deposit for one at my Toyota/Scion dealer. At that time no one knew that the Scion brain trust decided to only offer the Auto CVT in the U.S.

I get the feeling from reading posts on this forum that the Scion transmission announcement was not greeted eagerly by all members as Scion had assumed.

I personally will not take ownership of the iQ in the Auto CVT form, and have told my dealer so. He presently is bringing a 2012 Yaris with a manual transmission in for me.

I have been researching the above hatchbacks as possible alternatives to the iQ with an Automatic transmission.
 

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Surely there must be more reasons to buy a new car than the problem with a heater on a Golf? :)
Check out the Fit. It still won over Yaris in a recent Car and Driver comparison. Fit is currently the leader in a subcompact segment. The reasons it is slightly pricier than the competitions is justified by the superior technology (in my opinion at least - new L15 engine, ACE body structure, I -vtec, superior room and cargo carrying capabilities, fun to drive, etc).

Mazda 2 has always looked attractive to me, and they drive super well. The shifter is a pure bliss. I've seen the factory where they are assembled - Hiroshima.
 

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My 2000 Golf also has 208K miles on it, and I need a newer vehicle that I can put 90 miles a day on.
 

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Surely there must be more reasons to buy a new car than the problem with a heater on a Golf? :)
Check out the Fit. It still won over Yaris in a recent Car and Driver comparison. Fit is currently the leader in a subcompact segment. The reasons it is slightly pricier than the competitions is justified by the superior technology (in my opinion at least - new L15 engine, ACE body structure, I -vtec, superior room and cargo carrying capabilities, fun to drive, etc).

Mazda 2 has always looked attractive to me, and they drive super well. The shifter is a pure bliss. I've seen the factory where they are assembled - Hiroshima.
I'm a Toyota guy but Honda does build amazing cars. The Honda Fit might be a bit pricey but in the end you get what you pay for, I haven't come across much Honda Fit's that were problematic. They also hold their value pretty well.
 

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I took delivery of my 2012 Toyota Yaris 5 speed manual this past Thursday. I am quite happy with it, with only 299 miles on the odometer it has averaged 42.6 MPG, and am expecting 43 MPG when I fill up in a couple of hundred miles. Gas gauge is barely under 1/2.
 

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I took delivery of my 2012 Toyota Yaris 5 speed manual this past Thursday. I am quite happy with it, with only 299 miles on the odometer it has averaged 42.6 MPG, and am expecting 43 MPG when I fill up in a couple of hundred miles. Gas gauge is barely under 1/2.
You made the right choice here with going for the Yaris over the CVT Scion iQ. I want the Scion iQ just as badly as anyone else and a manual transmission iQ is what im really looking for. I think for now I can do without the manual transmission and wait for that model meanwhile driving the CVT equipped iQ.
 

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I took delivery of my 2012 Toyota Yaris 5 speed manual this past Thursday. I am quite happy with it, with only 299 miles on the odometer it has averaged 42.6 MPG, and am expecting 43 MPG when I fill up in a couple of hundred miles. Gas gauge is barely under 1/2.

Congratulations. So you're beating the EPA estimate by quite a bit if your mileage holds up. Keep us updated.
 

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I posted this yesterday on YarisWorld.com

I filled my 2012 Yaris this morning., The dealer sort of had it full when I picked it up on 11/10/2011, I would guess they stopped at first click, but it will take another gallon after that. It had 1.1 miles on it at pick up. So on 390 miles it burned 9.035 gallons yielding an economy of 43.05 MPG. I drive about 95% highway miles, so I would expect to see 44 to 46 MPG at my next fill up due to the fact I always fill to the neck and the dealer hadn't.
 

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I just filled my 2012 Yaris L, up 367 miles since last 8.228 gallons yielding 44.60 MPG. It has 1765 on it and with the mileage still climbing it might hit 45 on the next fill up.
 
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