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2011 Scion iQ - Projected Price And MPG Plus More Details

The Good Car Guy complained vociferously when Toyota announced Scion was coming to Canada in September of this year. Initially, plans were revealed for dealers to be concentrated in highly populated urban areas: just Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. This is, Toyota and Scion said, where the target market resides. Except, The Good Car Guy is a tremendously active part of the target market (driving a long-term smart fortwo for GCBC) and the GCBC Towers isn't in Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver but in Halifax; a populated urban area.

Well, Scion's website, ScionNation.ca, now has a FAQ section which speaks of "more cities across Canada planned in the very near future". That's good news. Though not at all excited by the megablah Scion xD and despite disappointment in the changes manifested in the second-generation Scion xB, the Scion tC is pretty cool and the 2011 Scion iQ is an ingenious amalgam of ideas; executed to perfection or not.

New details have emerged regarding the 2011 Scion iQ, details which should make Mercedes-Benz Canada, and Roger Penske in the USA, a little bit nervous about the smart fortwo's continued viability. Even with the Scion iQ's relative obesity (approximately 150-300 pounds heavier than a smart fortwo depending on spec), its 1.3L engine will provide at least an additional 20 horsepower, a figure north of 90 bhp, says Scion. More bad news for the smart car can be found when comparing fuel efficiency. Scion says the iQ will deliver similar, or even better, mileage than Daimler's smart fortwo. Toyota Canada has said the Scion iQ should be rated just over 5L/100km. Smart's are given ratings by Natural Resources Canada of 4.8L/100km on the highway, 5.9L/100km in the city. GoodCarBadCar.net's long-term smart fortwo averages 6.4L/100km, 36.7 mpg on the U.S. scale. Incidentially, 36mpg is how the EPA rates the smart fortwo's average fuel economy. Expect the Scion iQ to have a slightly better city rating than the smart fortwo (a 33 mpg car) helped by slightly easier acceleration and lower-revving. On the highway, don't count on the Scion iQ being much higher than 41mpg, same as the smart fortwo. Let's forecast 35/42 for a combined figure of 37 mpg.

Here's the kicker. The Scion iQ offers way more space in the rear, two seats if you like or a cargo shelf if you don't require them. The only obvious difference with the Scion iQ we'll be offered, when contrasted with the Toyota iQ in Europe, is the Scion's increased length. There's nearly four extra inches tacked on to the bumpers. Wheelbase, width, and height dimensions remain the same.

Read on after the jump for more specifics on the 2011 Scion iQ's, including prospective pricing and likely mpg ratings.

What about price? In the UK, Toyota has priced the iQ between £9,995 and £12,995. The Toyota Yaris, admittedly a slightly different car Across The Pond, starts at £10,245 and goes to £14,080. Fortwos, by the way, begin at a lower dollar point than the iQ but rise higher. In the United States, a Toyota Yaris is priced from $12,605. The least expensive Scion is the xD at $15,570. It's improbable that Toyota USA would think the iQ has enough unique cred to be considered an upmarket small car and thus be priced in around the xD and the $16,520 Scion xB. Considering the smart fortwo's base price in the States is under $12,000, the iQ can't go too much higher than that or much up on the Yaris, either. One would have to assume the Canadian dollar base price would be under or just over $15K.

The 2011 Scion iQ will become renowned for its fleet of passive safety features. There are ten airbags in total, including a rear curtain to protect the noggins of rear seat passengers in such close proximity to the rear window, knee airbags for both the driver and front passenger, and a driver's seat cushion airbag. Don't get the impression the Scion iQ is lacking in active safety measures. ABS, EBD, traction control, brake assist, and stability control will be standard equipment.

What about price? In the UK, Toyota has priced the iQ between £9,995 and £12,995. The Toyota Yaris, admittedly a slightly different car Across The Pond, starts at £10,245 and goes to £14,080. Fortwos, by the way, begin at a lower dollar point than the iQ but rise higher. In the United States, a Toyota Yaris is priced from $12,605. The least expensive Scion is the xD at $15,570. It's improbable that Toyota USA would think the iQ has enough unique cred to be considered an upmarket small car and thus be priced in around the xD and the $16,520 Scion xB. Considering the smart fortwo's base price in the States is under $12,000, the iQ can't go too much higher than that or much up on the Yaris, either. One would have to assume the Canadian dollar base price would be under or just over $15K.

The 2011 Scion iQ will become renowned for its fleet of passive safety features. There are ten airbags in total, including a rear curtain to protect the noggins of rear seat passengers in such close proximity to the rear window, knee airbags for both the driver and front passenger, and a driver's seat cushion airbag. Don't get the impression the Scion iQ is lacking in active safety measures. ABS, EBD, traction control, brake assist, and stability control will be standard equipment.

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Great article - gets me very excited about the iQ again. Looks like Scion will stick to their guns about the price tag too.
 

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Pretty much anything (almost!) is better than my current car so I am happy to hear any number that resembles a high 30 or 40 mpg!
 

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I'm excited about the iQ and I've been looking forward to it's US introduction since 2008.

I'm also frustrated that we don't get the engine and transmission choices that the Europeans get. I don't like Toyota's US marketing angle of the iQ as a pocket rocket for young people. Toyota seems willing to sacrifice gas mileage for a little extra power in order to appeal to this youth market. That's fine, but give me the high-mileage diesel.

For me, and many others I'm sure, high mileage is the main reason to give up the extra space and utility of a bigger car for a smaller car. I love the Smart Fortwo, and I'd have one in my garage if not for the mediocre gas mileage. The iQ must better the Smart's gas mileage significantly or I will sit on the fence and wait for something that will.
 

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Interesting read.

Good points Jay about the high mileage option seeming to be avoided by Toyota. I wonder if the car manufacturers figure the base crowd for a high miler car just isn't there yet.
 

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I am getting 41-44 mpg hwy in my 2010 Honda Fit manual. And it's a larger and heavier car with a larger engine (1.5).
EPA rates it at 33 mpg hwy but all owners are reporting high 30s and lower 40s.

So, the iq being so much lighter and with smaller engine, I expect the fuel economy to be in the low 50s mpg.
 

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$15k Canadian for a base model iQ sounds almost right, but it CAN be cheaper to help make for a competitive price against cars priced around $15 000 - $16 000 like the Fiat 500 & Veloster.

How much would you guys pay for the Scion iQ? I believe any price higher then the competition will call for Scion to seriously justify the prices.
 

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yellow green PLEEEEZE!

i just want one in neon yellow green! but just watch, the USA colors will be same ole boring black white and grey, with maybe a red thrown in. give us NEON! also a diesel would be cool. who cares about power, i want MPG!
 

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Diesels have yet to catch on in the US. granted, VW and Mercedes and BMW have all started to bring them over here. most people are extremely uneducated about the versatility and economicality (it's a word now) of a diesel engine. I just want to the iQ to be available. It's a super awesome little dishwasher.
 

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The scion really is a lower end brand name to Toyota and then after that it becomes Luxus so i wouldn't be surprised as to why Scion would stick true to their price tag line.
 

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They should really put a Direct Injection 3-cylinder engine in this car to boost up the mileage, instead of regular multiport fuel injection. On their website (scion_com), they say it has "Direct Ignition", which I guess they are saying that the spark plugs are inside the cylinder, the fuel is not ignited outside the cylinder. OK, but all cars do that.

So they should put a 3-cylinder DI engine in it that has an Atkinson cycle lower lobe (Like Honda's new small engines are coming out with), in which the engine can act like an Atkinson cycle engine when RPMs aren't that high and not under that much load. This greatly reduces compression losses compared to the ordinary OTTO cycle.
Why Toyota doesn't do this, I don't know.
 
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